"not for canada - australian in disguise" (for-canada)
02/03/2016 at 09:45 • Filed to: None
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"not for canada - australian in disguise" (for-canada)
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May we always remember Scion for it’s boxy minivan/wagon/hatchback things, and rebadged Toyotas.
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Oh, and the Celica TC.
Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> not for canada - australian in disguise
02/03/2016 at 09:49 |
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First gen XB > everything else box shaped
PotbellyJoe and 42 others
> Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
02/03/2016 at 09:53 |
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Agreed. But not enough people felt this way when it was being sold. I was there helping to sell them.
I did have decent success with drummers who I knew and a flower shop that went for the square shape for loading and unloading of boxy objects. Also a plumber at one point bought a few and made it into a small-job porter.
Very versatile and wholly underappreciated when new.
Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> not for canada - australian in disguise
02/03/2016 at 09:54 |
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I really want a manual first gen XB. I love them. I will always love the toasters. Farewell old friend.
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PotbellyJoe and 42 others
> not for canada - australian in disguise
02/03/2016 at 10:04 |
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I sold Scions when i sold Toyotas. I also bought a 1st Gen tC to commute in.
They are more than adequate cars, but the marketing has always missed where the products actually shine.
The tC is still one of the better road trip cars I have ever owned. It could swallow miles like crazy and was very quiet for a cheap 4-cyl coupe.
The xA and xB were so practical it was awful for Toyota. They wanted these to catch on with the youth, but the older and wiser people who didn’t care about image were buying them instead because the value they offered.
The xD was a forgettable mishap and a reaction to the xA’s marketing failure.
The 2nd gen xB was a reaction to the complaints that the first gen was too small and underpowered by people who wouldn’t have bought the 1st gen in the first place and then didn’t buy the xB in the second gen because they were never xB buyers, so all Toyota accomplished was making the first gen owners mad that they had no progression to buy into, unless they wanted a Yaris5 that didn’t have the benefits of the boxy layout for loading gear/cargo/stuff.
Then the second gen tC came out and did nothing good for the update.
The iQ was dumb and a reaction to the higher gas prices and the smart car launch. Toyota showed their strange marketshare paranoia to us on this one.
Then you get the FR-S which delivers on many promises, but the brand had already been weird for too long and was probably unsalvageable at this point despite a somewhat attractive product.
There isn’t a single Scion that would have sold worse as a Toyota.
The xA could have been the refresh of the Echo, the xB could have been the Toyota Stamen (or whatever) the tC (with slightly tweaked styling) could have been a Celica, the xD was a Corolla hatch, the FR-S is a Toyota everywhere else.
It was a wasted exercise by a company too afraid to take risks. Ironically it was the lack of risk taking with the designs that made for a bigger risk.